Tuesday, 26 January 2010

Tawhid (or tawheed) versus the Christian Trinity



Three in one

Tawhid or tawheed
Tawhid (tawheed) is what passes for Muslim theology. Its main principles are...

- The absolute indivisible unity of Allah.
- The omniscience of Allah about all events past, present and future.
- The unfettered omnipotence of Allah. He can do anything he wants.
- The incomparable uniqueness of Allah, he is totally unlike anything in his creation.
- The micromanagement of the world . Laws of science are an illusion. Allah recreates the universe moment by moment according to his whim.
- Indivisible sovereignty of Allah - Man has no free will.
- Allah as a necessary rather than contingent being.

It all seems deceptively simple, and indeed this deceptiveness is used to lure the gullible into Islam, especially those Christians who do not have a sound understanding of the Trinity and the reasons why the indivisible unity of Allah leads to logical absurdities.

Of course other aspects of tawheed as well as the indivisible unity are in contradiction with Christianity. We could mention in passing the following list...

- Omniscience about future events and indivisible sovereignty precludes human free-will. We are all Allah's automatons.
- Unfettered omnipotence contradicts the observed laws of nature.
- The incomparable uniqueness of Allah contradicts Christian doctrine that Man is made in God's image.
- Omnipotence contradicts necessary existence. An omnipotent being could do anything, including ceasing to exist. Therefore Allah's existence is contingent upon his not deciding to cease to exist.

However, this post is primarily concerned with the Muslim attacks on the Trinity, which consist of the repetitive mantra 'Allah has no son' (try googling it to see just how repetitive it is) plus accusations that Christians are polytheists, worship three gods, ascribe partners to Allah etc etc.

Let's first of all look at the logical contradictions that appear when we take the indivisibility of God to its absolute conclusion, and then at the history of tawhid.

Indivisible Unity Implies Paralysis
All functioning entities must be composite in order to function. Something that was an absolute indivisible unity could never interact with anything else. For an 'entity' to interact it must either give something of itself, or receive something into itself. Everything that causes a change is itself changed in the process.

An absolutely indivisible entity would be completely inert - an analogy from elementary chemistry would be those inert gases such as helium and neon that can't give up or take up electrons, and so can't form compounds or interact with any other elements. For the same reason an absolutely indivisible Allah would be powerless and unaware of any changes around him. The Jews understood this perfectly well, and referred to God as 'Elohim' - a plural noun. Similarly, the early Christians had the doctrine of the Trinity, which refers to three modes of existence or interaction of God, not to three Gods as Mohammed apparently believed. (Mohammed may even have believed that Mary was one aspect of the Trinity)


History of Tawheed
Unlike most other religions, Islam didn't start off as a coherent body of doctrine. It began as the rantings and ravings of a psychopathic pedophile, which were altered according to the requirements of his debauched lifestyle. The Koran is full of internal contradictions, with the more violent verses 'abrogating' (i.e. cancelling) the more peaceful ones.

Nor was Islam spread by missionary efforts as with other religions. It was imposed by the sword by a thuggish bunch of robbers, rapists and murderers who were attracted by Mohammed's offer of divinely approved raids of rape and pillage. Mohammed bragged that he had been made victorious with terror.

Consequently, the later Muslims had to try to do a retrofit of theology and philosophy on to what was a pig's breakfast of garbled Jewish and Christian beliefs mixed up with Mohammed's ramblings and ravings. They soon gave up on the philosophy, and didn't do much better with the theology.

What they settled for was a God of extremes, who was very much overspecified ('my God is bigger than your God and doesn't need any partners or sons' etc)

One consequence of the attempt to do the retrofit was that some explanation had to be found for the numerous discrepancies between Mohammed's Koranic ravings and the contents of the Judeo-Christian scriptures. The highly imaginative explanation that the Muslim taqiyya artists came up with was that Jews and Christians had systematically altered and corrupted their original scriptures in an attempt to discredit Mohammed!

Muslim theology.
Allah started life as a meteorite who inhabited a vessel shaped like a lady's thingy, in a cubic building in Mecca. He was a purely local, tribal god who had a definite location on Earth.

That's why Muslims always bow to Mecca. They aren't worshipping the entire city, including car parks, electricity substations, public toilets and all the rest of the urban infrastructure. They are worshipping one specific object in the city - Allah the meteorite. Allah only developed pretensions of being a universal deity later, and his parochial Meccan origins are still very much in evidence to this day!

And strange to relate, although Allah had no sons, he did have three daughters who were venerated in early versions of the Koran. As Islam grew more macho, the verses which referred to Allah's daughters were condemned as Satanic and removed. Muslims really do not like to be reminded of them, and Salman Rushdie was awarded a five-star fatwa for his novel on the subject.


Allah's arse or butt and Bi-la kayf or Bi-la kaifa
Also, in his early days Allah was very much divisible into parts. The Koran says he's got hands, a face and buttocks with which to sit on his throne. Tawhid doesn't cope with Mohammed's anthropomorphism all that well, and this crude Koranic portrayal of Allah is, like his daughters, a great embarassment to Muslim theologians. Raising this subject usually provokes the angrily defensive retort of 'Bi-la kayf' or 'Bi-la kaifa' , which means Mohammedan contradictions and absurdities must be accepted without asking how or why. This anti-rational aspect of Tahwid is another illustration of how Islam produces idiocy, and idiocy produces Islam.


Over-specified Allah
The subsequent Muslim theologians over-specified Allah with power attributes to such an extent that he has become a logically impossible being.

- There is a contradiction in the idea of a supreme being who is omniscient, compassionate and yet creates souls in the knowledge that they are damned to eternal agony burning in hell. This contradiction has never been resolved by the Muslims. If Allah is omniscient then He knows all events past and future, including how people will behave, and their ultimate fate before they are even born. The future is already laid out before him like the frames of a movie.


- If Allah is omniscient about the future, then he can never make a decision or choose a course of action, because he knows in advance exactly what his future actions will be for all eternity. He cannot decide to change his mind because he will know in advance when and how he will decide to change his mind, so his mind will already be made up. Such a supreme being would be totally paralysed by his own pre-ordained future - the ultimate in feed-back loops or logical contradictions, which ever way you care to look at it. Allah could have no free will!

This gives a double whammy of paralysis when combined with the inert indivisibility.

Christianity does not suffer from this logical conflict, because God has given Man free will, which removes the inevitability of determinism from the feedback loop. Within the Trinity, the Son clearly also has free will, for example to choose to accept or resist the temptations of Satan.



The Holy Trinity
All Allah's theological and logical absurdities are overcome if we accept the triune nature of the Godhead. The doctrine of the Holy Trinity, avoids the two erroneous extreme views of absolute singularity (Islam) and absolute plurality (polytheism).

The basis of designation of the Christian God is composed of three parts: Father, Son and Holy Spirit. This is not to say that there are three Gods, only that the basis of designation of God is composite.

Mo's Passion Wagon

For example a pram consists of a composite basis of designation comprising seven parts - a body, a handle, a hood and four wheels (ignoring the cans and the passengers, even though everyone said they made a lovely couple!).

This is not to say that there are seven prams, just that in order to function as a pram, the vehicle must be composite. A single pram-shaped block of concrete wouldn't function as well.

Another way of visualising the Trinity (apart from St Patrick's famous shamrock leaf) is the medieval figure of the three hares. Each hare is incomplete in itself but achieves completion by dynamic interaction with the other two.

Dynamic co-dependency


Necessary Being versus co-indwelling Trinity.
The Muslim theologians, in their attempts to make sense of Mohammed's incoherent Koranic ravings, defined Allah as a single indivisible Necessary Being with no contingent dependencies. Given the need to simplify the garbage they were wading through from Mohammed's brain-dump, this must have seemed like a good idea at the time.

A Necessary Being contains the reasons for its existence entirely within itself without the need to reference any other entity. It is completely defined by its own nature. It is therefore uncaused. (The opposite is a Contingent Being, which has at least some of the causes of its existence external to itself, like mother and father, food-supply etc.)

However, as later 'process theologians' were to point out, there are some serious drawbacks to having a God who is a Necessary Being. For instance, he cannot undergo any externally produced change of state, because one of the reasons for the existence of Allah@time2 would be something external to Allah@time1.

This implies that Allah could have no memory of external events, nor could Allah respond to external events. He would not know or care if he was being worshipped, ignored, or even insulted by blasphemous Danish cartoonists. Any change of state would imply that he was a Contingent Being.


In nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti
These logical difficulties do not of course apply to the Trinity, where each member is contingent upon the others for some aspect of his existence. This is known as co-indwelling, whereby the persons of the Trinity reciprocally contain one another, so that one permanently envelopes and is permanently enveloped by the other, whom he yet envelopes.

This co-indwelling is not viewed as a static situation (at least not by the process theologians) but as a dynamic process of mutual causality as illustrated by the three hares. The doctrine of the Holy Trinity thus avoids the utter paralysis of the Godhead that is the inevitable logical conclusion of Tawheed theology.


Predatory cult
The difference between predatory cults such as Islam and real religions, is that a true religion attempts to bring out the best in people, whereas a predatory cult does the opposite.

Muslims inhabit a different moral universe from the rest of us, where good is evil and evil is good, if it serves the purposes of Islam.

While other religions teach goodwill to mankind, Islam teaches hostility to all non-members of the cult.

Jesus, in the parable of the Good Samaritan, taught his followers to help all people in need, irrespective of their religion. Jews are commanded to be a light unto the nations. The Buddha taught compassion for all suffering beings.

But in Islam, charity applies only to fellow Muslims, and in fact many Islamic charities are money-launderers for jihad.

There is no Golden Rule in Islam. There is no place for conscience in Islam. Peel away the thin veneer of religiosity, and all you find is vicious, primitive, predatory tribalism.



Nothing in common
Islam, in the West, is fighting its battle of acceptance and legitimacy. Muslim activists are working fervently trying to improve Islam's image. Their goal is to create an environment in which Islam can be easily propagated. Their tool is as old as Islam itself, but they have just rediscovered it. This tool is telling Christians that Islam and Christianity have a lot in common. They cite Islam's belief in the Bible, God, Jesus, Mary, the prophets, the day of judgment and Paradise.

This tactic is not new to Islam. Fourteen centuries ago, Mohammed, the prophet of Islam, used it when he started preaching his new religion in Mecca. At the beginning when Mohammed was weak, he was conciliatory and appeasing to Christians. He told them, "We believe in what has been sent down to us (The Quran), and sent down to you (The Bible). Our God is the same as your God." Surah 29:46. Later, in Medina, after Mohammed became strong, all this changed. Allah, allegedly, tells him then, "Fight people of the Book (Christians and Jews) who do not accept the religion of the truth (Islam) until they pay tribute by hand, being inferior." Surah 9:29

The fact is that the differences between Christianity and Islam are very deep, and irreconcilable. The space limitation will enable us to list just a few. ... More at http://www.islamreview.com/articles/nothingincommon.shtml


No moral equivalence
Those people who use the moral equivalence argument to compare Islam with other religions need to examine their own subconscious psychological motives. They are not only attempting to delude others, but are in deep denial and trying to delude themselves.

The conscious part of the argument takes the form "Christians and Jews have committed atrocities such as the McVeigh, Breivik and King David Hotel bombings, so Christianity and Judaism are just the same as Islam. Therefore Islam poses no special threat."

The fallacies are obvious: Christian and Jewish acts of terrorism are rare and infrequent; they are rejected by the majority of followers of the religions, go against the core teachings of the religions, and are committed by a few isolated loonies. In contrast, Islamic acts of terrorism are commonplace, are encouraged by the Koran and are supported, if not actually carried out, by a substantial proportion of Muslims.

The unconscious and self-deluding part of the moral equivalence argument is the refusal to face the fact that Islam is an intrisically violent totalitarian ideology that has infiltrated our civilization, and is bent on our conversion, subjugation or elimination. To acknowlege this would be deeply disturbing and well outside the comfort zone of most people (remember the popular enthusiasm for appeasement of Hitler and 'Peace in Our Time'?) . So we reassure ourselves, by the moral equivalence argument, that Islam is just like other religions.

It's far easier to stay in denial and regard Islam as being no more threat to our lives and culture than the Quakers or Lubavitcher Hasidim. That way we don't have to worry about the looming global clash of civizations, or think about the unpleasant courses of action that may be necessary to reduce the threat. We can leave that for our children to sort out.






20 comments:

Anonymous said...

wat the hell do tyou know about life asshole

goethechosemercy said...

Excellent entry. Don't be bothered by the comment above.
Muslim rhetoric is always violent and insulting when the argument is too good to counter.
And you're right.
Muslim theology is moronic.

muslimpoxbyebye said...

It will take another 15 years or so for the planet to wake up completely and as one to realize that islam is not a religion at all but a mass murdering cult started by a very very disturbed evil murderer and pedophile that has spiraled out of control. THE SOURCE OF THIS EVIL IS mecca AND THIS will have to be vaporized and all the mosques on the planet will have to be razed to the ground. All the korans and all their evil cult literature will have to be burnt and only then will peace come. About 2 billion muslims will have to be killed. There seems to be absolutely no option to this scenario. muslim means cult member and cults cannot co-exist with the rest of this planet. Think about it ...THEIR population is spiraling and our resources are dwindling and these insane cult members are looking FORWARD to Armageddon. We should give it to them. Let their evil day dreams come true. When will this start? When the courts start informing the general populace about this cult. Right now we are just unveiling the cult's face .... slowly slowly. soon the title of religion will be SHORN away from it and permanently labeled as a cult. The masquerade will be over and the real fight will start. As it is today the term muslim in the free world is a spittoon and an insult. Blood will have to flow....is there another way ? The gaya theory guy Lovestock says there should be 1 billion people max on this planet. Today there are nearly 7 billion... If we minus 2 billion muslims = 5 billion. 5 billion peaceful people on the planet will be a tight squeeze but it'll be cool. Let us cull these cult members from this lovely planet for their sakes as their evil book instructs them to be evil and not co-exist with the rest of the planet. let us send them on their way. Call it pest control or what you will but it will have to be done. Dark times are coming and come they will. A few years back thinking like this would have been ridiculous but with every passing day we encounter more and more of these mad people who refuse to live in the present and refuse to see the madness in their thoughts and actions. Locking them up means feeding them and spending resources that could be used for good otherwise. Science is anathema to them and the dirty years of their pedophiling and mass murdering leader is the only era to live in ...so be it..... let's get rid of them. Anyone can start an evil cult but everyone can stop it....if anyone has another option that would make more sense let me know. I'm not an Israeli but if anyone should start this mass cull it should be Israel because when the evil mad man was alive AND spewing at them they didn't knock him off and look what's happened. It's never too late to stamp out filthy evil. Never too late. We all, bar none will help the Israelis... we have to ....for our sakes and for the good of this planet. It is said that blood always flows where muslims go......soon blood will flow where muslims have gone but it will be muslim blood that will flow. Non-muslim Good blood will also flow in the fight back by evil but that is expected. We live in interesting times. Get ready boys and girls ....our grand-children will thank us BUT FIRST we have some sincere work to do even if it repulses us. SUCH IS LIFE. AFTER DARK COMES LIGHT AND ONLY AFTER islam IS SMASHED WILL COME PEACE FOR OUR CHILDREN'S CHILDREN. We have to make this happen.

Anonymous said...

God in Islam has many similarities with the Jewish concept of God: "The attributes of God include omnipresence, omniscience, omnipotence, eternity, truth, justice, goodness, purity and holiness.” (The Book of Jewish Concepts, Philip Birnbaum, Hebrew Publishing Co. New York, 1964).

N'Durn said...

It's only religion, you're taking it a bit seriously aren't you?

Gloria Lacryma said...

> N'Durn said...
>
> It's only religion, you're taking it a bit
> seriously aren't you?

Tell me something; when death cult members use their "religion" to murder innocents in cold blood, with impunity, do you make a flippant comment to their fellow believers that they are "taking their religion a bit seriously"? Zealousness in analyzing an irrational credo, as the author did here, is hardly the kind you should be snarking at.

Anonymous said...

The writer has mentioned above a logical example to disprove Islam.He is just trying to put a scientific example here.Now I m going to Disprove Modern Bible Wrong Completely on the base of Science And not only Science also On the base of common sence.Lets consider bible,In the book of "Proverbs",Chap:6,verse:7,it is mentioned that "Ant has no rulers".Today we know that Ants has got a very good communication system with each other.They have their Queen,workers,soldiers etc.And a whole branch of Biology is dealed with this known as "Social Biology".Another Example,in the book of "Genisis" Chap:3,verse:14,it is mentioned that "Serpents eat dust".Today no zoology book says that Serpents eat dust.There are a large number of such mistakes in the bible which proves that it has not remained in its original position but just a Human Written Bible.

Anonymous said...

You people are morons.
You're using the Muslim radicals to justify this and that doesn't work at all. The majority of Muslims disown this radical sect. The Quran specifically goes against violence.
But you probably never bothered to read the Quran so you wouldn't know.
Also Islam and Christianity are so incredibly similar it's ridiculous.
But again, you wouldn't know that because you're an ignorant bastard.

Anonymous said...

disproving the modern bible?, i think your taking it out of context really http://bible.cc/proverbs/6-6.htm and the other one serpents eating dust referring to the fall of man, bit like the old saying eat my dust do people actually do that? no
maybe you need to understand the language a bit more or bother to look for understandings, theres plenty of people who will pick and choose 1 or 2 lines and say its wrong without reading anything else into it.

Anonymous said...

So wait...Allah has 3 daughters, al-Lat, al-Uzza, and Manat, and he threw a black rock at muslims, and they put it in a big pussy-shaped vessel in the kabaa and kiss it?
Now I'm confused!
http://www.travel-images.com/az-kaaba-bkstone.jpg

Fernando said...

"The Quran specifically goes against violence"... hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha... I'm done...

Anonymous said...

To the person who said this:

"The Quran specifically goes against violence. But you probably never bothered to read the Quran so you wouldn't know."
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I think, it you did not read your Qur'an very well, or you must be lying, for the Qur'an is replete with several hate verses such as these:

- "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." (Quran 9:29)

“…I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them.” (Qur’an 8:12)

"O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness." (Quran 9:123)

“Therefore, when you meet the unbeliever, smite at their neck.” (Qur’an 47:4)


SO, READ YOUR EVIL QUR'AN VERY WELL. YOU MAY EVEN COME TO REALIZE THAT ISLAM IS A LIE AND TRUTH IS KILLING IT.

Anonymous said...

"trying to put a scientific example here" Ok Let's read Genesis 3:14"And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life" So he is gonna be from now on creawling on the floor, with the dust in it's face, like when u fall and say "i ate dust" i mean u say the bible is human written but even being human written it seems u can't udnerstand it at all XD

"Also Islam and Christianity are so incredibly similar it's ridiculous" What? are you serious? you god commands you to kill disbelievers, mine command us to love the sinner but to hate the sins (which is very different), your god says "fight those who do not believe" mine says "if they dont wanna hear you,clean the dust of ur feet and leave", your gon only loves the believer so u must lve him first, mine loves all his creatures even the one that doesn't love him, your god teaches you to kiss stones and bow to them, mine teaches me not to do so, your god is a big failure since he couldn't fulfil any of his desires, he wanted Muslim Jesus to bring a new gospel and it dessapeared and even worst there ain't no even a copy, he wanted muhammad to conquer the world for Islam, and he failed too because he died poisoned, you god have some mental deficeince in comprare to mine because it's only necesary 2 mins of reading the quran and bible and everyone will notice tha intellectual deficiency u observe when u start reading the bible! if actually easier to say: what is that in what we are so alike ?

Anonymous said...

"u start reading the bible" hehe my mistake i meant to say the quran...

Anonymous said...

Islam and Christianity are "incredibly similar"??
YOU are a fool.

Anonymous said...

The sooner the loony tune twelver president of iran gets his bomb and attempts to attack Israel, the sooner we can get on with cleansing the world of this ridiculous death cult and move forward to happier times.

sybarite123 said...

God is the uncaused cause! He is eternal and the only "Necessary Being". This necessity and God's uncangeableness are essential to the Catholic Teaching re God. Yes, God has knowledge of all the future and still creates everyone, even one whom He foresees as 'damned'. God's all encompassing causlity does not preclude man's Free Will! God even causes our 'good deeds' such as our first act of Faith. But we believe freely. This supposed contradiction is only apparent. God's universal causality does not make us 'Robots'. Without God we can do nothing, but His Causality does not destroy our human nature which includes Free Will. Only God can move us freely. God is Free & so are we free in our co-operation with Him. Herein is Truth, but also "Mystery". Two indisputable Christian truths. To understand how this is possible we must know God as He knows Himself. God will always be 'mystery' for us, even in Heaven, for our finite mind can never comprehend(know fully) God who is the 'infinite being'. God will always thrill us; He will never be completey known; He will never be 'boring' but rather always 'new'. "God, ever ancient, ever new". (St Augustine). Even friends in Heaven will always remain a "wonder to us" This infinitude of God will leave us eternally in a state of wonder, joy, love & peace! Heaven will be for us "an eternal Alleluia"(St. Augustine). Don't 'dumb down God'!

Anonymous said...

The best thing would be for the Muzzies to piss off china. The problem would vanish quickly

Anonymous said...

This is just a helpful note on my part. When you philosophically attack a doctrine of a religion in a rigorous manner, you come across as sophisticated. Some of the other more insulting comments that you make, fall greatly under the level of a "philosophical attack", it seems crude. The latter acts as a detriment to the former.

I think the case can be argued that the doctrine of divine unity will result in something like the concept of the Nirguna Brahman in Advaita Vedanta.

http://books.google.com/books?id=2TA9AAAAQBAJ&pg=PA9&dq=%22is+a+perfect+reality+personal%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=TcgoUuS9FJHJ4APj14CADQ&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22is%20a%20perfect%20reality%20personal%22&f=false

Anonymous said...

u r showing the level of ur regious illiteracy......u no nothing abt Islam n Allah so shut up