Sunday, 24 January 2010

Multiculturalism - Does Islam bring Cultural Enrichment or Cultural Impoverishment?

One of the many ways that our Western Judeo-Christian civilisation can be shown to be superior to Islamic barbarism, is that when examined closely, Islamic culture is seen to be nothing but an impoverished subset of Judeo-Christian culture, with no original features. Consequently, Islamic culture cannot add anything to ours, it can only subtract and destroy.

Every aspect of present-day Muslim culture that appears to be different from our own is in fact already contained within our culture, it's just part of the subset marked 'history'.

So all those primitive aspects such as tribalism, theocracy, punishment by amputations, repression of women, honor killings, blasphemy laws etc are quite familiar to us - but we've been there and done that and rejected it all centuries ago.

As with adolescent vandals, those who lack creativity can only express themselves by destruction, and Muslims are very good at destroying the products of more advanced civilisations (known as 'Jahiliyya') .

If you look carefully at the process of Islamification in the West, you'll see that nothing is being added (apart from babies and mosques), but much is being taken away. Almost every Muslim demand is culturally 'subtractive' rather than 'additive'. They want to remove pig statues, ban alcohol, curb free speech, and stop teaching art, music, drama, biology and other 'un-Islamic' subjects in schools.

The mere presence of Muslims in the West reduces the quality of life, with security restrictions on travel, and non-Muslim women and children in Jihadist-infested cities unable to move and play freely for fear of organised gangs of Islamic sexual predators.

In contrast to the subtractive impacts of Jihadism on Western civilisation, Islamic clerics in in Dar al-Islam are paranoid about the addition of aspects of Western culture such as fashion, music, toys, cinema, art, science etc to their own, which they refer to as 'Westoxication'.

So, no matter what the multiculturalists tell us, Islam cannot bring 'cultural enrichment' to the West - it can only bring cultural impoverishment.

To say that Jihadist immigrants are worthless is to overvalue them. In fact they have a negative cultural worth, because their attempts to Islamify the West are an attempt to reduce the rich culture of a superior civilisation to a backward, depleted, restricted and primitive subset.

Although some foreign cultures are 'enriching' and bring new artforms etc, Islam is culturally impoverishing. All it can do is take away our liberty and restrict our freedom of expression.

Islam is medieval. We've been there, done that, rejected all that theocratic crap, then progressed through the Renaissance and Enlightenment and left Islam in the dust.

Vibrant Cultural Enrichment™
The justification for mass immigration given by NuLabour is that immigrants bring 'Vibrant Cultural Enrichment™ ' to our otherwise drab English lives.

Now to a certain extent this is true. Wherever the Chinese settle you get Chinatowns, which become tourist attractions. In contrast, wherever the Jihadists settle you have ghettoes which become no-go areas. Obviously, some groups are more vibrant than others.

So what have the Muslims contributed to our cultural enrichment?
Zero? - no, the number 0 was a Hindu invention.

In fact they have contributed less than zero, they have a negative effect on all aspects of society.

Islam is a moribund culture that has produced nothing of any significance to the rest of the world for the past five hundred years, with the one exception of the new cinematic genre of 'Jihad-Snuff' videos, showing now at a mosque near you.

Islamists have a deleterious effect on education, with attempts to rewrite history so that the Muslims are given credit for inventing everything, and aggressive demands to ban music, visual arts and drama from the syllabus.

There's the old joke about the difference between the Islamic world and a pot of yoghurt, but it's beyond a joke when they try to impose their repressed and culturally barren stone-age culture on our kids.

They have disrupted our once civilised society. They have made air travel into even more of a nightmare than it was. They have flooded the country with heroin.

Kuffar teenagers in enriched areas are scared to go out in case boys get attacked by gangs of 'Street Jihadists' and girls by gang rapists. Even young children are vulnerable to Islamic paedophile gangs.

They have destroyed trust. We can no longer trust doctors if they are Muslims. We can no longer trust police if they are Muslims.

They have destroyed free speech. We can no longer discuss religion without being arrested. They have given our control-freak government the perfect excuse to increase their surveillance into everybody's lives.

Unlike the far eastern cultures, which have contributed martial arts, visual arts, meditative techniques and so on, Islam has contributed nothing. They are so backwards they cannot create anything new. Their toxic combination of ignorance with aggressive arrogance can only destroy cherished aspects of our traditional culture.

Everything they touch turns to Shi'ite.


Anonymous said...

Good post! Kind of reminds me of the blacks here in the US, tho compared to muslims in the west, blacks have contributed many positive things to our society. Unfortunately the black culture here in America is violent and dysfunctional to say the least, and dare I say, a dying culture only surviving because of it's proximity to a sympathetic white one.

Anonymous said...

I believe Islam does bring cultural impoverishment. This is an excellent educational article with many great links. Some would find this article repulsive to read; however, the truth about how backward and uncultured Islam really is must be published. The average person doesn't know how evil Islam really is. Many people seem oblivious that the Islamic peoples are at war with us on all fronts. It really frustrates me that our governments still let Muslims into our country. Yes, Islam does nothing but take away from our Superior Western Culture. Stop Appeasing the Monster that Islam is.

Anonymous said...

Most of the people I have heard dismissing Islamic culture have never themselves visited Islamic countries in their whole lives, but base their conclusions from the media. Those who have actually spent time in Islamic countries, in contrast, have mostly positive reviews.

Perhaps those who think Islamic culture is inferior to Western culture could account for some of these quotes:

"But Islam has a still further service to render to the cause of humanity. It stands after all nearer to the real East than Europe does, and it possesses a magnificent tradition of inter-racial understanding and cooperation. No other society has such a record of success uniting in an equality of status, of opportunity, and of endeavours so many and so various races of mankind . . . Islam has still the power to reconcile apparently irreconcilable elements of race and tradition. If ever the opposition of the great societies of East and West is to be replaced by cooperation, the mediation of Islam is an indispensable condition. In its hands lies very largely the solution of the problem with which Europe is faced in its relation with East. If they unite, the hope of a peaceful issue is immeasurably enhanced. But if Europe, by rejecting the cooperation of Islam, throws it into the arms of its rivals, the issue can only be disastrous for both." - H. A. R. Gibb

"History makes it clear however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of the sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever repeated." - De Lacy O'Leary

"The extinction of race consciousness as between Muslims is one of the outstanding achievements of Islam, and in the contemporary world there is, as it happens, a crying need for the propagation of this Islamic virtue." - A. J. Toynbee

"I am not a Muslim in the usual sense, though I hope I am a "Muslim" as "one surrendered to God," but I believe that embedded in the Quran and other expressions of the Islamic vision are vast stores of divine truth from which I and other occidentals have still much to learn, and 'Islam is certainly a strong contender for the supplying of the basic framework of the one religion of the future.'" - W. Montgomery Watt

"I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion for from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Saviour of Humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today." - George Bernard Shaw

Michael Dar said...

It would be very surprising and difficult to believe that primitive, barbaric - nomadic tribes from Arabia spreading their new religion by the sword all over the known world did indeed contribute that much to mankind. My fair guess is that when conquering and submitting all those various civilisations they just also took over all their knowledge which the Arabs then attributed to themselves..which make them the biggest plagearists in history. Each time they conquered yet another people or civilisation, stealing their various specific achievements the Arabs enriched their own patrimonium. The only merit they eventually can be credited for is to have preserved and exploited other civilisations knowledge for mankind!

Donna said...

What IS the difference between the Islamic world and a pot of yoghurt?

me said...

It's not that christians are better than moslems, it's that moslems are even worse than christians.

WAKE UP said...

Shaw and Toynbee...yep, two of the most discredited "thinkers" in the more recently enlightened West.

Anonymous, you're not only a coward, you're an idiot. Are you also aware of Shaw's predilection for Russian communism? He may have been a good writer, but socio-politically he was off the planet.
In any case, the real point is this: we don't have to give a damn what Muslims think or do, AS LONG AS THEY DO IT IN MUSLIM COUNTRIES. The reason the West is advanced is precisely because it does NOT think and act like Islamic countries do - and they are NOT going Islamicise the West.

If you're so enamoured of Islam's sick culture, why aren't YOU living there?

Gary said...

@ Donna
The difference between the Islamic world and a pot of yoghurt is that the yoghurt has a living culture.

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goethechosemercy said...

Muslims are taught to recite Arabic, yet many of them do not know a word of Arabic.
They are known to have written poetry, treatises of various kinds. And yet they have no access to this culture at all.
And they are not compelled to access it and comment on it.
Instead, they and we are given the insipid draught of "world studies" and "globalist" literature. An apology for the colonialism of our ancestors that never apologizes because it never studies anything in depth.
The Muslims in the West, in order to understand the West, must know Greek or Latin and must read in those languages. What is the point of living here when all they equate the culture with is, as I've said elsewhere, miniskirts, movies and make-up.
Those calling themselves Westerners must be pressured hard to do the same!
Islam does not have a living culture because it refuses to educate itself fully about the Near East, the true East and the true West.
Remember, the West is true, not a fabrication.

goethechosemercy said...

There is no equivalency between Muslim & Western culture. The historical record is clear.
Muslims saw the Atlantic, but did not attempt to sail it.
They refused to sail it because they had no way of using trigonometry along with the other sailing methods they perfected.
Muslims innovated algebra, but algebra introduces nothing to mathematics.
Instead, it takes pre-existing elements and re-arranges them. That is not invention, that is innovation-- the putting to work of ideas.
Muslims preserved some Western philosophy, but they also rejected its premises and conclusions.
All of this was done before the Mongol invasions, which brutalized Islam far beyond our imaginations.
620,000 Americans died over the issue of slavery.
Not one Muslim ever died to free one slave in the Muslim world. Not one. Values speak for themselves.

Anonymous said...


goethechosemercy said...

Good post! Kind of reminds me of the blacks here in the US, tho compared to muslims in the west, blacks have contributed many positive things to our society. end quote.

Blacks were enslaved in this society for centuries. Then they were freed.
Middle Eastern Muslims have never known a day of American slavery in their historical existence.
And it's their ambition to make slaves of all of us or to force us to submit to their creed.
Blacks have never forced anyone to submit to anything.
Your comparison is a contrast. Get real.

Anonymous said...

I read they stole "0" and algebra as well (hindu mathematician)...and the blockade of the Silk Road by Ottomans was what prompted colonialization to begin with...

Anonymous said...

"Unlike the far eastern cultures, which have contributed martial arts, visual arts, meditative techniques and so on, Islam has contributed nothing."


As a matter of fact, even the martial arts that you praised had Islamic influence:

Visual arts?

Meditative techniques?

haleo777 said...

Ok Trencherbone, I have a challenge for you. The internet is bristling with sites, blogs, etc claiming that Muslims invented most things in the world, including the camera. I know that an Arab discovered the phenomena of the pinhole thing, but probably many other intellectuals before him and after would have also have noticed the phenomena, but it is hardly a camera, let alone an invention. There are hundreds of other inventions claimed to be Muslim inventions. I am quite perplexed that this ingenuity seem to be missing in the Muslims of today, Have their brains dried up? Ok so my challenge for you is to do a research and try to prove or disprove these claims and publish them here. I and many of your readers would be appreciative of such revelations.

Anonymous said...


Kimpatsu said...

Islamic culture is seen to be nothing but an impoverished subset of Judeo-Christian culture...
Just as Judeao-Xian codswallop is inferior to critical thinking. So rationalists win again...

Cranky White Woman said...

Too much in-breeding going on in the Muslim world is responsible for dumbing down their gene pool, with many Muslims possessing lower than average IQs, not to mention the numerous health problems and birth defects that go along with incest. How many Nobel Prizes for Science have been awarded to the over one billion Muslims? How many have been awarded to the world's tiny population of Jews? Let's face it, Satan appeared to Mo (remember that Lucifer was the most beautiful of angels) and sold him a bill of goods.

Anonymous said...

To haleo777, the reason that Islam does not offer any scientific advances -- that sort of thing -- is that Allah has "free will". This means He cannot be bound by scientific principles. So there can be no progress.

Anonymous said...

Well, they're getting ris of the Jews, that's the main thing isn't it? It's not like the UK and EU "elites" favour them at all, is it?

Don't want those civilised inventive types running around free when you can have jihadi wolves wrecking your quality of life.

Great bargain you got there, IK and EU!
Just to be clear, i am being VERY sarcastic.

IftikharA said...

As a Muslim myself I find David cameron's speech quite depressing. Though I agree that intergration is an issue, this speech is not going to help, it may make things worse. You cannot collectively hold all Muslims responsible for rooting out extremists. This feels like a witch hunt and all this speech has done is alienate us further - yes Mr Cameron cheap tactics in order to deflect attention from your various unsavory actions.

British society was and still does not believe in the process of Multiculturalism. Perhaps he should instead say “Britain has failed at multiculturalism”. It's individualism and globalisation that are undermining a strong national identity.The outcome of globalisation is Multi-culturalism. The reason multiculturalism has been failing becase the government policy has not been a multicultural policy - it has been an integration policy where all people are melted into one culture. It is the uni-culture that has failed as it does not allow for respect of different cultures. The majority of Muslims in the UK are well-integrated and support and promote democracy, equality and British rule of law.

The Home Office concluded in 2006 that Asian Muslim youths in the UK were more tolerant of others, whilst Brit youths were far more intolerant and the report concluded that intolerance from the Brit community was a greater barrier to integration. It's anti racism that has failed, not multiculturalism.
I am wondering if David Cameron knows anything about language learning; it appears not. Children under the age of about 10 can very easily learn a new language quickly if immersed in it (as they would be by going to school). Many migrant children born in the UK didn't speak English until they went to school. It didn't affect their education/life chances; they all went to University and now have good jobs (oh and they're bilingual). In addition, a friend who has taught in East London schools told me that if parents don't speak English perfectly they should NOT speak English to their children as then the kids start school with bad English, which has to be unlearned. If a child can speak one language (whatever it is) correctly, then they can learn a second without a problem. It is beneficial if children learned their 'mother tongue' first before English. Who cares if English isn't a first language as long as it is spoken competently? Some migrants who have been in the UK a long time may well have a different language as their first language but actually speak English better.

I'm not sure how learning English will help stop extremism either, many of those who have carried out/plotted atrocities have been highly educated.

Anonymous said...

IftikharA, David Cameron is Jewish and a Zionist, therefore his speech is nothing more than what we would expect from that crowd. Do not be intimidated. I am a non-Muslim who supports the Muslim community in Britain. I am an enemy of the EDL and all other Zionist front groups (including this blog) which seek to encourage hatred of Muslims.

These people who come on here with their tired lies about Islam don't realize how ridiculous they sound to people who can actually see the unfolding political agenda that demands Muslims be used as a scapegoat. These people are so ignorant that they are the last people anywhere in the world who still believe the official story about 9/11.

Anonymous said...

For those comment writers who so vigorously tried to say that islam contributed stuff to the world - it''s codswallop. Here is what the great leader and intellectual, Sir Winston Churchill, said about islam and muslims (and never a truer word has been said, and he wrote this over a hundred years ago):

" How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome."

Anonymous said...

Most moslems originated from asian and middleeast suppressive culture.
It is tiring to live in a suppressive backward middle east or asian culture and it is even more tiring to live in a predominantly suppressive backwrd islamic culture. The fact that many of us nonbelievers voluntarily accept western culture but not islamic culture, just proved that islamic culture is not only more inferior but also more inhumane than western culture.

Anonymous said...

Multiculturalism worked to a certain extent in asian region because various suppressive islamic culture asian culture share cultural similarities with non-islamic asian culture, but it will never work in western countries because various nonislamic asian culture and islamic asian/middle east culture are really very different from original western culture.

Anonymous said...

I think islamic culture or any other culture or extreme multiculturalism should not be forced onto us individual nonbelievers. It will caused a lot of unhappiness and resentment, if any inferior culture is being deviously pushed to us nonbelievers, without our nonbelievers consent.

gsw said...

Anonymous [4 April 2010 08:22] said...
"Perhaps those who think Islamic culture is inferior to Western culture could account for some of these quotes:"

Is this like that so-called "Quoran Challenge"?

"a magnificent tradition of inter-racial understanding and cooperation."
= Slavery /Dhimmitude

"The extinction of race consciousness as between Muslims is one of the outstanding achievements of Islam,"
= Nationalistic Fascist Umma (all male muslims are the same; all female muslims are inferior; all non-muslims are scum. Race etc. now irrelevant)

"I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness"
= It is so peaceful when everyone who disagrees with us has been shut up or killed.

"Any real culture still surviving in islamic countries is left over from the pre-possessors of that land, for example: the Persians.
When they destroyed the Buddhist statues they showed their true opinion of art and culture.
(And we all know that Muhammed was tin-eared!)

Anonymous said...

You are right!

Islam has only brought the world destruction.

Muslims must be stopped.

Vinay Shetty said...

One of the things the West needs to do is stop feeding muslim pride and egoes by talking about "Arabic Numerals". Even Dan Brown credits Arabs of inventing the decimal numerical system.

The book which talks about "Arabic Numerals", written by the Arab scientist is called "The method of reckoning of the Hindus". So the very "inventor" of Arabic numerals gives the credit to the Hindus.

So why do we still talk about "Arabic Numerals"?

Anonymous said...

Islamic culture is an oxymoron. Too many cousin to double cousin matings.

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The inbreeding leaves them with very low IQs. They would be lucky to invent a stick.

Anonymous said...

I think that it would be better if try to stop eliminating the other part from our lives. every Muslim, Jew, Christian , Buddhist and etc were living thousands years ago in the same world. Before Some Muslims were trading Buddhist. Christians lived under the Muslims peacefully more than under Jews. So it's not about accepting me or not, because I'm already there but it's about sharing the common good.

Anonymous said...

Four wives Forty kids
Stop the breeding, kill the feeding.
Pay for it yourselves..Grow your own damn food.

Anonymous said...

You people are sick minded
have such little knowledge of Islam yet keep pooping around
Infact Islam doesnt not 4 wives and 40 children so do some research and inventions wasnt only one by Arabs mass majority of contribution was done by Persian who were concerted to Islam
Islam is more tolerant than British and Swedish and rest of white people
People like you who only talks should spend less time on internet spreading hate but int he library and read more to understand Islam
and to understand Islam read Quran n Hadiths than look at Muslims your intellectual person you will the gap

jacksonl03 said...

A good well thought out article. Can't say the same for some of the disagreeing comments clearly based on mind sets that don't value facts.

Anonymous said...

When China can modernize with a huge population without relying on massive oil reserves in mere decades the contrast is so stark with the Islamic Middle East that is still stuck in a quasi Middle Ages...Any self-respecting Muslim there ought to feel ashamed.

Marlene Wilkins said...

Anyone who praises islam is at best an idiot, or more likely an islamist-sympathizer and enabler.
There is not one thing good about islam, it's a cult hybridized with organized crime, that's all.
islam deserves no respect, and adherents of it should properly all be held under suspicion, especially with all the evidence we see on a daily basis of how 'peaceful' muslims are.
islam has been Banned here in our city as a criminal organization. It gets NO recognition as a religion, and the next step is going to be making it illegal to buy, sell, possess or traffick in islamic religious materials under hate-literature legislation.

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Anonymous said...

Two things that I hate in life:

Racist bigots. And idiots who claim themselves superior above all others. By the way get yourself some help you're being biased morons.

Anonymous said...

@ Marlene Wilkins

You're the idiot......

OMG you stupid people, how can you be so bigoted when AMERICA is a land of freedom of speech, and religion?

That's it. I claim Western culture as inferior to Asian culture if that's how you want to play it guys. And I'm white.

We really should learn to respect all people's ideas and beliefs even if you disagree with them. I respect Christianity's ideas, and beliefs even though I disagree with them.

Anonymous said...

The sad thing is that most of you are a bunch of dogs, who obey and listen to media and stuff.

Stupid dogs.